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		<title>By: Hanton: Who controls my movie collection?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanton: Who controls my movie collection?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A good apportionment of a cost of a DVD, Blu-Ray disk, or PS3 diversion is for a setup and charterin... that is compulsory to be used on blurb disks. The only reason these encryption schemes exist is to forestall a disks from being copied by unapproved publishers, yet since they have always been cracked, they seem to have small genuine value and only cause a invalid boost in a cost of media and diminution in consumer value (because a media can&#8217;t be copied or backed up). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A good apportionment of a cost of a DVD, Blu-Ray disk, or PS3 diversion is for a setup and charterin&#8230; that is compulsory to be used on blurb disks. The only reason these encryption schemes exist is to forestall a disks from being copied by unapproved publishers, yet since they have always been cracked, they seem to have small genuine value and only cause a invalid boost in a cost of media and diminution in consumer value (because a media can&#8217;t be copied or backed up). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Novack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Novack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest that you contact the major replicators in your region. This pricing may no longer be accurate as the data was gather 2 years ago. In fact, pricing is probably slightly lower now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest that you contact the major replicators in your region. This pricing may no longer be accurate as the data was gather 2 years ago. In fact, pricing is probably slightly lower now.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Wesley,
You dont know how MUCH this article has helped me. Developing a business plan for HSBC on making Blu-ray Disc out of Paper. Your cost breakdown is right now the only thing I got at hand. Can u name a way i can acquire information on further costing details...or even approximates, of the articles of cost? ANY information would be MOST helpful.

I must also say, I live half-way across the world in Bangladesh - where there&#039;s nothing even CLOSE to a CD factory - so this is the only way for me.

Hoping you can help.
Thank you,
Marcus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Wesley,<br />
You dont know how MUCH this article has helped me. Developing a business plan for HSBC on making Blu-ray Disc out of Paper. Your cost breakdown is right now the only thing I got at hand. Can u name a way i can acquire information on further costing details&#8230;or even approximates, of the articles of cost? ANY information would be MOST helpful.</p>
<p>I must also say, I live half-way across the world in Bangladesh &#8211; where there&#8217;s nothing even CLOSE to a CD factory &#8211; so this is the only way for me.</p>
<p>Hoping you can help.<br />
Thank you,<br />
Marcus</p>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One year latter and all HD-DVD  backers are proven 100% wrong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One year latter and all HD-DVD  backers are proven 100% wrong</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Novack</title>
		<link>http://wesleytech.com/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-replication-costs-analyzed-again/113/comment-page-1/#comment-25071</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Novack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the additional info acme. That definitely helps add to the discussion. You are speaking from the smaller replication plant perspective, whereas my unnamed sources actually do deal with Hollywood studios...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the additional info acme. That definitely helps add to the discussion. You are speaking from the smaller replication plant perspective, whereas my unnamed sources actually do deal with Hollywood studios&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: acme</title>
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		<dc:creator>acme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO does his credibility no favor by being insulting and juvenile right out of the box. Also, I think I detect an agenda there. But that&#039;s his and his company&#039;s problem.

That being said, his analysis makes some sense. I work for a mid-sized replication facility (for real, just look at my email address - and I make no exagerrated claims of being a &quot;purchasing manager&quot; etc) and find myself having to explain to customers who want us to handle their BD replication that 1. the content provider MUST be licensed by AACS (and have paid the $15,000.00 annual fee) and 2. we will then charge them both a one time certification fee (which we pay directly to AACSLA as a &quot;content producer&quot;, that is, a disc manufacturer) and the per disc fee ($0.04 each disc which again, we pay directly to AACSLA, unless the content provider has made a deal with AACSLA as a &quot;volume provider&quot; and has managed to secure a volume per-disc rate deal, which they will then pay directly to AACSLA)

Let me say here, that dealing with this AACS licensing fees/bureaucracy is as bewildering as dealing with macrovision. Sheesh.

Anyway, we are also &quot;dipping our toes&quot; and have recently purchased a HD-DVD line - it is being installed as I type, and we expect to start making actual HD-DVDs next week. It is very fast and able to do DVD-5 and 9 as well as HD-DVD, so, as well as being able to do HD-DVD, we just increased our regular DVD capacity by 20%.

We also purchased, and expect to take delivery of in early 2008, a BD line, and we expect to be able to sell this format to a (what I believe will be) limited amount of customers. The boss here is very excited by the prospect of selling $3.00 discs. We shall see.

Bottom line: Blu-Ray will very expensive to manufacture, mostly due to the various AACS licensing/per disc unit fees, equipment upgrades, equipment purchases, etc., at least in the forseeable future, and will price some of our clients out of that business. While HD-DVD will only be marginally more expensive, and that cost increase gets smaller and smaller as amount of discs required gets larger and larger.

Though the post house and authoring guys tell me &quot;Hollywood is going Blu Ray&quot;, that does us no good since we do not have any *movie studio* accounts, and mostly deal with marketing types of content. I can&#039;t imagine any of THEM wanting to pay an annual fee or per disc rate of any kind - they would be willing, however (I hope) to pay an additional $0.05 - $0.10 per disc (for 10,000 - 100,000 discs) to have an actual Hi-Def DVD of their wonderful program with which to lure customers.

And I just told one of the sales guys just this morning to stay away from BD...HD-DVD is my choice.

ACME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO does his credibility no favor by being insulting and juvenile right out of the box. Also, I think I detect an agenda there. But that&#8217;s his and his company&#8217;s problem.</p>
<p>That being said, his analysis makes some sense. I work for a mid-sized replication facility (for real, just look at my email address &#8211; and I make no exagerrated claims of being a &#8220;purchasing manager&#8221; etc) and find myself having to explain to customers who want us to handle their BD replication that 1. the content provider MUST be licensed by AACS (and have paid the $15,000.00 annual fee) and 2. we will then charge them both a one time certification fee (which we pay directly to AACSLA as a &#8220;content producer&#8221;, that is, a disc manufacturer) and the per disc fee ($0.04 each disc which again, we pay directly to AACSLA, unless the content provider has made a deal with AACSLA as a &#8220;volume provider&#8221; and has managed to secure a volume per-disc rate deal, which they will then pay directly to AACSLA)</p>
<p>Let me say here, that dealing with this AACS licensing fees/bureaucracy is as bewildering as dealing with macrovision. Sheesh.</p>
<p>Anyway, we are also &#8220;dipping our toes&#8221; and have recently purchased a HD-DVD line &#8211; it is being installed as I type, and we expect to start making actual HD-DVDs next week. It is very fast and able to do DVD-5 and 9 as well as HD-DVD, so, as well as being able to do HD-DVD, we just increased our regular DVD capacity by 20%.</p>
<p>We also purchased, and expect to take delivery of in early 2008, a BD line, and we expect to be able to sell this format to a (what I believe will be) limited amount of customers. The boss here is very excited by the prospect of selling $3.00 discs. We shall see.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Blu-Ray will very expensive to manufacture, mostly due to the various AACS licensing/per disc unit fees, equipment upgrades, equipment purchases, etc., at least in the forseeable future, and will price some of our clients out of that business. While HD-DVD will only be marginally more expensive, and that cost increase gets smaller and smaller as amount of discs required gets larger and larger.</p>
<p>Though the post house and authoring guys tell me &#8220;Hollywood is going Blu Ray&#8221;, that does us no good since we do not have any *movie studio* accounts, and mostly deal with marketing types of content. I can&#8217;t imagine any of THEM wanting to pay an annual fee or per disc rate of any kind &#8211; they would be willing, however (I hope) to pay an additional $0.05 &#8211; $0.10 per disc (for 10,000 &#8211; 100,000 discs) to have an actual Hi-Def DVD of their wonderful program with which to lure customers.</p>
<p>And I just told one of the sales guys just this morning to stay away from BD&#8230;HD-DVD is my choice.</p>
<p>ACME</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Novack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Novack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can believe whatever you want, but this information came from one of the largest replicators in the USA. And no, it was not Sony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can believe whatever you want, but this information came from one of the largest replicators in the USA. And no, it was not Sony.</p>
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		<title>By: LMAO</title>
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		<dc:creator>LMAO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and higher picture quality???? LMAO both are maxed out at 1080P, stop it with this theoretical bull crap... BTW do you work for Sony?  

I am only taking HD-DVD in the long run, because there is no way Sony will be able to keep up with replication demands, and porn will sway the industry toward HD-DVD.  And our company stands to benefit financially 150% more from HD-DVD sales.  Again I say, Sony will not be able to keep up with production/replication unless someone else wants to throw in roughly 100 million USD for 50 Blu-Ray replication lines, neglecting the other 40 million USD they will need for stampers/mirrors...  More research is a good thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and higher picture quality???? LMAO both are maxed out at 1080P, stop it with this theoretical bull crap&#8230; BTW do you work for Sony?  </p>
<p>I am only taking HD-DVD in the long run, because there is no way Sony will be able to keep up with replication demands, and porn will sway the industry toward HD-DVD.  And our company stands to benefit financially 150% more from HD-DVD sales.  Again I say, Sony will not be able to keep up with production/replication unless someone else wants to throw in roughly 100 million USD for 50 Blu-Ray replication lines, neglecting the other 40 million USD they will need for stampers/mirrors&#8230;  More research is a good thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LMAO</title>
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		<dc:creator>LMAO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a moron, I am the purchasing manager for the 5th largest DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray replicator in the US, and I can tell you for a fact that your information is completely wrong.  First of all, you didn&#039;t take into consideration for the plant to acquire the necessary equipment to produce Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs.  The standard upgrade to HD-DVD from a Singulus Spaceline is about $150,000 USD.  This German based DVD replication machine is what the majority of the plants use around the world.  However the cost of being able to produce BD is a staggering $2,000,000 per unit... Just taking that into consideration, there is no way small-medium sized plants are going to take Blu-Ray in the long run, in fact over 95% of Blu-Ray discs are replicated by Sony themselves... (hence the little porn available).  We are only dipping our toes in Blu-Ray and it is costing our company an arm and a leg... while our HD-DVD sales are through the roof with minimal upgrade costs.  So from an insider&#039;s perspective, HD-DVD WILL beat out Blu-Ray into the summer of &#039;08 due to cost reduction of HD-DVD and comparable sales for same titles produced in both formats/lower production cost.  Do more research before you write next time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a moron, I am the purchasing manager for the 5th largest DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray replicator in the US, and I can tell you for a fact that your information is completely wrong.  First of all, you didn&#8217;t take into consideration for the plant to acquire the necessary equipment to produce Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs.  The standard upgrade to HD-DVD from a Singulus Spaceline is about $150,000 USD.  This German based DVD replication machine is what the majority of the plants use around the world.  However the cost of being able to produce BD is a staggering $2,000,000 per unit&#8230; Just taking that into consideration, there is no way small-medium sized plants are going to take Blu-Ray in the long run, in fact over 95% of Blu-Ray discs are replicated by Sony themselves&#8230; (hence the little porn available).  We are only dipping our toes in Blu-Ray and it is costing our company an arm and a leg&#8230; while our HD-DVD sales are through the roof with minimal upgrade costs.  So from an insider&#8217;s perspective, HD-DVD WILL beat out Blu-Ray into the summer of &#8217;08 due to cost reduction of HD-DVD and comparable sales for same titles produced in both formats/lower production cost.  Do more research before you write next time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stephen70</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blu-Ray has the extra capacity to provide future  movies with formats like Stereo 1080P24 or  720P 60, or hopefully  1080p50 .
also it&#039;s the real next format each new format should give at least 5* the last ie
6*800Mb (cd) ~= 4.8gb DVD
5*4.8Gb(dvd) ~= 25Gb Blu_ray 
why bother with a with a format which is only 3* when you can go 5* the capacity blu-ray is the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blu-Ray has the extra capacity to provide future  movies with formats like Stereo 1080P24 or  720P 60, or hopefully  1080p50 .<br />
also it&#8217;s the real next format each new format should give at least 5* the last ie<br />
6*800Mb (cd) ~= 4.8gb DVD<br />
5*4.8Gb(dvd) ~= 25Gb Blu_ray<br />
why bother with a with a format which is only 3* when you can go 5* the capacity blu-ray is the one.</p>
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